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01/25/2018 01:00 PM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE

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01:32:31 PM Start
01:32:57 PM Presentation: Aviation Advisory Board
02:40:04 PM Presentation: Alaska Technical Vocational Education Program Update
03:11:44 PM Adjourn
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+ How Do We Best Train Alaskans For Jobs? TELECONFERENCED
Dept. of Labor & Workforce Development
Presentation: Alaska Technical Vocational
Education Program (TVEP) Update
Greg Cashen, Deputy Commissioner
Paloma Harbour, Administrative Services Director
Allison Biastock, Alaska Workforce Investment
Board Director
Aviation Advisory Board
Lee Ryan, Ryan Air
Gideon Garcia, Northern Air Cargo
Tom George, Aircraft Owner and Pilots Association
Steve Strait, Board Member
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
          SENATE LABOR AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                        
                        January 25, 2018                                                                                        
                           1:32 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Mia Costello, Chair                                                                                                     
Senator Kevin Meyer                                                                                                             
Senator Gary Stevens                                                                                                            
Senator Berta Gardner                                                                                                           
Senator Peter Micciche                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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PRESENTATION: AVIATION ADVISORY BOARD UPDATE                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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PRESENTATION: ALASKA TECHNICAL VOCATIONAL EDUCATION PROGRAM                                                                     
(TVEP) UPDATE                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
LEE RYAN, Chair                                                                                                                 
Aviation Advisory Board                                                                                                         
Unalakleet, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT: Delivered an Aviation Advisory Board update.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
GIDEON GARCIA, Member                                                                                                           
Aviation Advisory Board and General Manager                                                                                     
Northern Air Cargo                                                                                                              
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Participated in the Aviation Advisory Board                                                               
update.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
TOM GEORGE, Member                                                                                                              
Aviation Advisory Board and Alaska Regional Manager                                                                             
Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association                                                                                          
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Participated in  the Aviation Advisory  Board                                                            
update.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
GREG CASHEN, Acting Commissioner                                                                                                
Department of Labor and Workforce Development (DOLWD)                                                                           
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Delivered an  update on the  Alaska Technical                                                            
Vocational Education Program (TVEP).                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PALOMA HARBOUR, Director                                                                                                        
Administrative Services Division                                                                                                
Department of Labor and Workforce Development (DOLWD)                                                                           
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Participated in  the  update  on the  Alaska                                                            
Technical Vocational Education Program (TVEP).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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1:32:31 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MIA COSTELLO  called the Senate Labor and  Commerce Standing                                                            
Committee meeting  to order  at 1:32 p.m.  Present at the  call to                                                              
order  were  Senators   Stevens,  Gardner,  and   Chair  Costello.                                                              
Senators Meyer and Micciche arrived during the meeting.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
^Presentation: Aviation Advisory Board                                                                                        
             PRESENTATION: AVIATION ADVISORY BOARD                                                                          
1:32:57 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COSTELLO  stated  that the  committee  would  continue  the                                                              
discussion about  Alaska's economy. The  question today is  how to                                                              
best train  Alaskans for jobs.  The Aviation Advisory  Board would                                                              
also give  a presentation  to share  Alaska's unique  relationship                                                              
with the  aviation industry and  its importance in  creating jobs.                                                              
She introduced and welcomed the presenters.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:34:12 PM                                                                                                                    
LEE  RYAN, Chair,  Aviation  Advisory Board,  Unalakleet,  Alaska,                                                              
said he  is employed by Ryan  Air, which his  grandparents started                                                              
in 1953. He  said his roots run  deep in Western Alaska,  but he's                                                              
had ample opportunity to travel throughout the state.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
GIDEON GARCIA,  Member, Aviation  Advisory Board,  said he  is the                                                              
General  Manager  for  Northern  Air  Cargo.  The  airline  serves                                                              
customers from the North Slope to Western Alaska.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
TOM  GEORGE,  Member, Aviation  Advisory  Board,  said  he is  the                                                              
Alaska  Regional  Manager  of  the   Aircraft  Owners  and  Pilots                                                              
Association.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RYAN stated  that the  goal today  is to  discuss the  impact                                                              
that  aviation  has  on  the  economy  of  Alaska.  He  began  the                                                              
discussion  highlighting his Junior  year in  high school  when he                                                              
was exposed to both  highway and ferry travel for  the first time.                                                              
Up to  that point he  was only familiar  with aviation  travel. He                                                              
learned  that the  State  of Alaska  owns  and  operates a  unique                                                              
transportation  network that includes  aviation, highways,  marine                                                              
highway,  and  rail. That  year  he  decided  to learn  about  the                                                              
systems that make up Alaska's transportation network.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
He reported that  82 percent of the communities in  Alaska are not                                                              
on a road  system and are only  accessible by air. Alaska  has 242                                                              
state-owned  airports,   two  of  which  are   international.  The                                                              
Fairbanks  International  Airport and  the  Ted Stevens  Anchorage                                                              
International  Airport make  up the  Alaska International  Airport                                                              
System.  Alaska  has six  times  more  pilots  and 16  times  more                                                              
aircraft per capita than any other state.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. RYAN  stated that the Aviation  Advisory Board has  11 members                                                              
that are appointed  by the governor to serve  three-year staggered                                                              
terms.  Its  purpose  and  function   is  to  advise  and  provide                                                              
recommendations   to  the  commissioner   of  the  Department   of                                                              
Transportation and  Public Facilities and the  deputy commissioner                                                              
of the  Division of  Statewide Aviation  on public policy  related                                                              
to the  department's exercise of  its aviation functions  assigned                                                              
by law.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Aviation  has   three  mission   statements.  The  Department   of                                                              
Transportation  and  Public  Facilities mission  statement  is  to                                                              
keep  Alaska  moving  through  service   and  infrastructure.  The                                                              
Alaska International  Airport System  (AIAS) mission  statement is                                                              
to  keep Alaska  flying and  thriving. The  Division of  Statewide                                                              
Aviation (SWA)  mission statement  is to  sustain and  improve the                                                              
quality of life throughout Alaska.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RYAN  reviewed   the  organization  and  leadership   of  the                                                              
aviation  system.   Marc  Luiken   is  the  Commissioner   of  the                                                              
Department  of Transportation  and Public  Facilities (DOTPF)  and                                                              
John Binder  is the Deputy  Commissioner. The deputy  commissioner                                                              
oversees  both  the International  Airport  System  and  Statewide                                                              
Aviation.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:40:32 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. GARCIA  stated that  the Alaska  International Airport  System                                                              
(AIAS),   which  consists   of  the   international  airports   in                                                              
Anchorage   and   Fairbanks,   operates   as   a   self-sustaining                                                              
enterprise system.  The airlines  that have signed  on to  be part                                                              
of the  enterprise help fund it  through user fees.  The signatory                                                              
airlines include  Alaska Airlines,  FedEx, and UPS,  among others.                                                              
In 2017 they contributed over $123 million in user fees.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
He  pointed  out  that  the locations  of  the  two  airports  are                                                              
geographically strategic.  They are 9.5  hours from 90  percent of                                                              
the   industrialized  world,   which  makes   them  valuable   for                                                              
refueling and  cargo transfer. He  displayed a map of  routes that                                                              
are flown more  than 140 times a  year. It is heavily  Pacific Rim                                                              
and domestic locations throughout the U.S.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:41:49 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MICCICHE  asked why  Anchorage has become  such a  hub for                                                              
international  cargo. "Is it  low landing  fees, low fuel  prices,                                                              
location,  combination of  those things  or what  are the  primary                                                              
factors?"                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. GARCIA  replied it's a combination  of those factors  and they                                                              
are striving to keep that competitive edge.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He  reviewed 2011  data to  illustrate  that AIAS  is an  economic                                                              
engine in  Alaska. The airport  system in Anchorage  generates one                                                              
in ten jobs and in Fairbanks it's one in twenty.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO asked  what airports AIAS competes with  and if the                                                              
Aviation  Advisory Board  has looked  at  whether improvements  in                                                              
technology  may   reduce  or  eliminate   the  use   of  Anchorage                                                              
International as a hub for refueling.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GARCIA said  they keep  an eye  on that;  some airports  have                                                              
tried for  market share but  so far, the  airlines have  come back                                                              
because  Anchorage  is  strategically  located,  competitive,  and                                                              
provides good service.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS pointed  out that  airlines from  the West  Coast                                                              
can carry less fuel  and more cargo if they can  stop in Anchorage                                                              
to refuel.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. GARCIA  agreed it's  a tradeoff  between weight and  distance.                                                              
Carrying less and  going further is the competitive  edge they are                                                              
always watching.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS  asked if  fuel prices are  reasonable and  how to                                                              
ensure they stay that way.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RYAN   replied  the  majority   of  jet  fuel  goes   to  the                                                              
international  airport in  Anchorage where  there is a  consortium                                                              
that  keeps  the  price down.  He  referenced  previous  questions                                                              
about the importance  of the system and explained  that the likely                                                              
competitors  do  not  have  a system.  The  airport  in  Fairbanks                                                              
serves  as  an   alternate  if  the  need   arises.  Additionally,                                                              
international  carriers can  partner  with a  domestic carrier  in                                                              
Anchorage to run  transfers. This is a competitive  advantage that                                                              
other states don't have.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:46:43 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COSTELLO asked  him to  explain  the communication  process                                                              
and procedure  between the  airport director  who is appointed  by                                                              
the  governor, the  signatories, the  community such  as the  Lake                                                              
Hood Pilots Association, and the Aviation Advisory Board.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. RYAN responded  that the key to the overall  system and public                                                              
involvement is  the communication  process. He explained  that, by                                                              
statute, the board  doesn't necessarily deal with  the signatories                                                              
or  take up  signatory issues  at Fairbanks,  Anchorage, and  Lake                                                              
Hood. However,  they do recognize  the importance of  advising the                                                              
commissioner  and  governor about  aviation  issues.  They are  an                                                              
avenue  for  getting the  right  people  in  the room  and  having                                                              
discussions about an  aviation issue. He cited the  example of the                                                              
Lake Hood  lease renewal and acknowledged  that there was  a break                                                              
in communication in that instance.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COSTELLO   asked  him  to  explain  the   Lake  Hood  lease                                                              
situation.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. RYAN  related that the  Lake Hood Seaplane  Base is  a general                                                              
aviation and  small commercial airport  within the grounds  of the                                                              
International Airport  System. When 13 slips came up  for lease on                                                              
Lake Spenard,  a company worked  with the Anchorage  International                                                              
Airport  to put  these  unimproved  leases to  bid  for a  25-year                                                              
term. It  went through  all the  channels including public  notice                                                              
and  everything was  quiet.  Questions didn't  come  up until  the                                                              
community  saw development  on  Lake Spenard  that  has a  10-year                                                              
waiting  list   for  slips   and  a   history  of  no   commercial                                                              
development. Commercial  activity has  been limited to  Lake Hood.                                                              
This  dispute  came  about  because of  a  lack  of  communication                                                              
between the international airport and the community.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COSTELLO   said  it's  a   priority  of  hers   to  improve                                                              
communication  between the  airport, community  councils, and  the                                                              
user  group. Having  you  here today  to  answer questions  brings                                                              
that to light and puts it on the record, she said.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GARDNER  commented that  it  was surprising  that  people                                                              
didn't  hear  about  this  because   Spenard  has  a  very  active                                                              
community council  and the airport  manager attends  the community                                                              
meetings and makes regular reports.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. RYAN  said the advisory board's  advice to the  department was                                                              
to hold  a separate  community meeting  on this  issue and  find a                                                              
way to move forward and ensure it never happens again.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:53:51 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RYAN   turned  to  the   slide  titled  "Putting   Alaska  in                                                              
Perspective.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GARDNER  noted  that Juneau,  too,  is  an  international                                                              
airport. She asked the impact of being categorized as such.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RYAN  explained  that  Juneau  as  an  international  airport                                                              
because it  has international flights.  Being municipally  run, it                                                              
qualifies  for  federal  airport  improvement  funding.  The  city                                                              
charges landing  or fuel-flowage fees  to have an  enterprise like                                                              
AIAS. He noted that Alaska has about 25 municipal airports.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COSTELLO asked  if the  Department  of Commerce,  Community                                                              
and  Economic  Development,  Division of  Community  and  Regional                                                              
Affairs  works with  communities to  make sure  they are aware  of                                                              
any federal dollars they may be eligible to receive.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. RYAN said he would follow up with an answer.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO asked  if the advisory board follows  the condition                                                              
of  airports   and  if  the   aviation  statistics   included  any                                                              
Department of Defense airports in the state.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RYAN  replied   the  board  does  follow   the  condition  of                                                              
airports.  Rural   airports  are   scored  for  federally   funded                                                              
projects  through  the  Airport   Performance  Evaluation  Process                                                              
(APEP) and  paved airports  are scored  through the Pavement  Mass                                                              
Index  (PMI). State-owned  airports  that  qualify  for a  federal                                                              
project must  be maintained for 20  years to live up to  the grant                                                              
assurances.  Military airports  are  counted among  the more  than                                                              
700 registered  airports in  the state, but  they run  under their                                                              
own premise.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He displayed  a state  map with colored  dots depicting  the state                                                              
operated, municipal,  private, military, and road  system airports                                                              
throughout  the state. He  highlighted the  overall efficiency  of                                                              
the  system.  In  2017,  the  aviation   network  operating  costs                                                              
totaled about  $38.3 million.  That is an  increase of  about $8.3                                                              
million,  much  of  which  is attributed  to  better  tracking  of                                                              
facility  expenses. The 19  certified airports  account for  about                                                              
$23 million  of that  annual cost  and the non-certified  airports                                                              
accounted for  $7 million.  In rural Alaska,  each airport  on the                                                              
map  represents  $35,000  to  $50,000   a  year  to  maintain  and                                                              
operate.  But their  economic  impact and  the  multiplier is  far                                                              
greater. They  serve the oil  and gas industry,  fishing industry,                                                              
mining, health and social services, and education.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO  asked if someone  like the McDowell Group  or ISER                                                              
has  done  a  study  on  the  economic   impact  of  the  aviation                                                              
industry.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. RYAN deferred the question until later in the presentation.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:00:58 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GEORGE supplemented  the  information  on the  rural  airport                                                              
system. He  explained that the  240 state-owned airports  are made                                                              
up of  a mixture  of gravel  and paved  airports, seaplane  bases,                                                              
and one heliport.  The regional FAA certificated  airports support                                                              
aircraft with  more than  30 passenger seats.  Of the  25 regional                                                              
airports  in the  state, 19  are  state operated.  The airport  in                                                              
Kotzebue is an  example. It has multiple runways  and provides the                                                              
only year-round access  to the community of 3,000.  These airports                                                              
have  crash,  fire, and  rescue  support  and are  typically  more                                                              
expensive to operate.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
He  displayed a  picture  of the  Koyukuk  community airport  that                                                              
provides  the only  year-round access  to this  city on the  Yukon                                                              
River. The  runway is gravel. He  displayed a picture of  the Gold                                                              
King Creek  backcountry airstrip  and stressed  the importance  of                                                              
these  airstrips to  provide  access to  remote  areas and  former                                                              
industrial  sites. Locals  generally  do maintenance,  not  DOTPF.                                                              
The  designation of  "off-field operations"  describes areas  that                                                              
have no  airport infrastructure, are  not supported by  DOTPF, but                                                              
are important for  commercial, industrial, and  recreational uses.                                                              
The  aircraft that  operate  in  this environment  generally  came                                                              
from an airport, so it is a link in the system.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:04:25 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  GEORGE discussed  funding  the construction,  expansion,  and                                                              
development  of airports. Like  all states,  Alaska relies  on the                                                              
FAA Airport  Improvement  Program (AIP) as  the principal  funding                                                              
source to  build or  expand airports. The  FAA pays  90-95 percent                                                              
of the  capital costs. It's  a good deal  but the airport  must be                                                              
built to  federal standards.  That's not always  the best  fit for                                                              
Alaska  and often  increases costs.  Another  factor in  accepting                                                              
federal money is  that the state must sign a  sponsor agreement to                                                              
live  up  to  39  grant assurances.  One  of  those  is  a  signed                                                              
agreement to support  the operation of the runway for  20 years or                                                              
longer.  The  state  received  $222.5 million  in  AIP  grants  in                                                              
FY2017 and a similar amount is expected this fiscal year.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO asked  if data is kept on the  airports that aren't                                                              
usable due to  lack of maintenance. She clarified  that she wasn't                                                              
asking  about  temporary closures  for  things  like snow  on  the                                                              
runway.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GEORGE deferred  the  question to  the  department. He  added                                                              
that the FAA  has made changes in  the last year on  how to report                                                              
runway  conditions,  which has  increased  the notices  to  airmen                                                              
(NOTAMs) that a runway is closed.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO asked  if the Aviation Advisory  Council works with                                                              
the Medallion  Foundation.  She opined that  any discussion  about                                                              
aviation safety in Alaska needs to involve that organization.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GEORGE  said there  isn't  an  official connection,  but  the                                                              
board is well aware of the work the foundation does.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RYAN  added  that  it  brings  up a  good  point  and  is  an                                                              
opportunity for the  Aviation Advisory Board to  work more closely                                                              
with the  Medallion Foundation.  He noted that  he and  Mr. Garcia                                                              
work for airlines  that are members of that organization  and that                                                              
his dad is the chair of the Medallion Foundation.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:09:28 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GARDNER asked  if the $222.5  million  in AIP grants  was                                                              
used for both capital projects and operating funds.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GEORGE replied  AIP  grants are  primarily  capital money  to                                                              
expand or build new airports.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MICCICHE  asked if state law requires  ongoing maintenance                                                              
of an airstrip  that is permitted  on state land. The  business or                                                              
industry  that applied  for the  permit may have  closed or  moved                                                              
on, but the airstrip continues to be used for other reasons.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. GEORGE  said he isn't aware  of a statutory  requirement. Last                                                              
year   DOTPF  established   a  working   group   that  looked   at                                                              
backcountry airstrips.  They found they receive  considerable use.                                                              
He offered  to follow up with a  copy of the report.  A surprising                                                              
finding  was  the   number  of  people  who  indicated   they  use                                                              
backcountry  airstrips year-round.  He opined  that the next  step                                                              
is  to  focus  on  the  different   landowners  that  have  state-                                                              
permitted airstrips.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MICCICHE expressed interest in seeing the report.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO asked  Mr. George to send the report  to her office                                                              
and she would distribute it to the committee members.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. GEORGE  turned to the slide  showing cost and  revenue options                                                              
to operate in  the system. Overall, the annual  operating cost for                                                              
the 240 airports  is about $35 million; $23.3 million  goes to the                                                              
19  regional  hubs,  $7.7  million   goes  to  the  remaining  220                                                              
airports, and  the statewide  aviation infrastructure  costs about                                                              
$4 million.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He explained  that the  aviation community  contributes about  $10                                                              
million  toward  the  overall operating  costs.  The  two  general                                                              
sources are  $5.3 million for lease,  tiedown, and other  fees and                                                              
the other  is $4.6  million in  motor fuel  tax. Proposed  revenue                                                              
additions include a  $1.4 million leasing program that  is on hold                                                              
and $9.3  million in  increased motor  fuel tax.  The latter  is a                                                              
bill going  through the  process this  year. He acknowledged  that                                                              
supporting  the rural airport  system is  a significant  impact on                                                              
the  general fund  and opined  that  more than  just the  aviation                                                              
community benefits from airports.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:15:59 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS asked  for clarification that the  cost for bypass                                                              
mail  is a  separate  matter and  is not  part  of the  discussion                                                              
about the cost to operate airports.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. GEORGE said that's correct.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RYAN added  that the  bypass  system equalizes  the price  of                                                              
mail to  the nonpriority rate  paid in  the Lower 48  for delivery                                                              
over a road  system. The airline  is subsidized to the  point that                                                              
it  can deliver  nonmail freight  and passengers  at a  reasonable                                                              
price.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS  said  bypass  mail  is  extremely  important  to                                                              
Alaskan  communities and  the  carriers and  he'd  like follow  up                                                              
information on how it is working.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RYAN  said  a  lot  of  people   would  be  very  excited  to                                                              
participate in that discussion.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:17:44 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  RYAN  turned  to  the  slide  that  highlights  aviation  and                                                              
airline business  challenges. He mentioned the bypass  mail system                                                              
and said the goal  of airlines in Alaska is to  help people living                                                              
in  nonurban  areas   have  access  to  goods   that  are  readily                                                              
available  to people living  in Anchorage,  Fairbanks, or  Juneau.                                                              
In Alaska,  75,000  people live  off the road  and marine  highway                                                              
systems  and 82  percent of  the  communities in  Alaska are  only                                                              
accessible  by  air.  Operating  a  business  in  Alaska  is  very                                                              
expensive.  For example,  Ryan  Air has  invested  $11 million  in                                                              
facilities  infrastructure  and significantly  more  than that  in                                                              
aircraft infrastructure.  "Our goal  as businessmen is  to provide                                                              
a service  to our people  but doing it to  try and run  a business                                                              
as well."  The federal  rules and  regulations are extensive,  and                                                              
the  pilots  must  be highly  trained.  There  are  remote  access                                                              
issues,  increased   building  costs,   and  the  environment   is                                                              
extreme.  He highlighted  that  the economic  downturn  has had  a                                                              
decided impact on the aviation industry.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO asked it's difficult to attract pilots.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. RYAN responded  there is not as much prestige  associated with                                                              
being a pilot as  in years past. It's difficult  to attract pilots                                                              
and  the  barriers to  becoming  a  pilot  are high.  Training  is                                                              
expensive, it's  a technical  job with a  lot of regulations,  and                                                              
there  are   few  aviation  schools   in  Alaska.  We   need  more                                                              
partnerships with  the Department  of Labor, Native  corporations,                                                              
and  the Association  of  Village  Council Presidents  (ACCP),  he                                                              
said.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS   asked  how  many   pilots  the   university  is                                                              
producing and what can be done to increase that number.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. RYAN said  the university's Industry Advisory  Council brought                                                              
that to  the attention  of the  new director  of the  university's                                                              
aviation  program. He  hasn't  received an  answer,  but he  would                                                              
follow up with more information.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COSTELLO   asked  if  new   FAA  regulations   or  training                                                              
requirements are presenting challenges.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RYAN  said  yes.  He related  that  after  a  large  aircraft                                                              
accident on  the East  Coast the FAA  initiated a new  requirement                                                              
for [14  CFR part]  121 certified air  carriers like  Northern Air                                                              
Cargo and  Alaska Airlines.  Those airlines  are required  to have                                                              
two  crew  members  that  have flown  1,500  hours  and  have  the                                                              
airline  transport  pilot certification  (ATP)  rating.  A lot  of                                                              
copilots  didn't qualify  and that  created a  domino effect  that                                                              
rippled to Western Alaska.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARDNER  referred to the  slide showing cargo  volumes for                                                              
selected airports and asked why cargo levels are falling.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. GARCIA confirmed  that the volumes have been flat  to down for                                                              
most of the selected  airports depicted on the  slide. King Salmon                                                              
and Dillingham  were exceptions  because  of good fishing.  During                                                              
the 2017  commercial salmon season,  about 1.7 million  pounds was                                                              
flown out  of Norton  Sound communities. The  value of  the salmon                                                              
was about  $2.8 million. He  noted that  cargo volumes in  and out                                                              
of  Deadhorse peaked  in 2015  because the  Haul Road  experienced                                                              
closures.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
He  turned  to  aviation  challenges  going  forward.  Some  fleet                                                              
changes include  international wide-body aircraft that  may affect                                                              
refueling in  Anchorage. Modernization  is also occurring.  Alaska                                                              
Airlines is bringing  on new 737-700 freighters  which will change                                                              
the  lift capability  and provide  more resources.  There will  be                                                              
infrastructure  challenges  as  well. Alaska  Airlines  has  major                                                              
capital  projects underway  with  a new  hanger  in Anchorage  and                                                              
security  upgrades in  Kotzebue  and Nome.  He also  spoke to  the                                                              
challenges air  carriers face  related to ever-increasing  federal                                                              
requirements.  He  related  that   a  new  National  Environmental                                                              
Policy  Act  (NEPA)  determination  has  added  another  layer  of                                                              
federal environmental  review of  projects. The Alaska  Region FAA                                                              
is working  with DOTPF helping to  make this process as  smooth as                                                              
possible.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:32:17 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. RYAN  thanked the committee  and expressed optimism  about the                                                              
economy  and keeping  Alaska connected  by the  movement of  goods                                                              
and  services. He  concluded that  to  have a  healthy network  it                                                              
takes aviation, the  highway system, the marine  highway, and rail                                                              
working together.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COSTELLO  thanked the  presenters  and observed  that  what                                                              
came through  is that  aviation touches every  area of  the state.                                                              
She reiterated  her intention to  continue the conversation  about                                                              
improving communication  between the  community and  the Anchorage                                                              
airport.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:35:44 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
^Presentation:  ALASKA  TECHNICAL   VOCATIONAL  EDUCATION  PROGRAM                                                              
UPDATE                                                                                                                          
  PRESENTATION: ALASKA TECHNICAL VOCATIONAL EDUCATION PROGRAM                                                               
                             UPDATE                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:40:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COSTELLO   reconvened  the  meeting  and   welcomed  Acting                                                              
Commissioner  Greg  Cashen and  Administrative  Services  Director                                                              
Paloma  Harbour to  address  the  question of  how  to best  train                                                              
Alaskans for  jobs, with  specific focus  on the Alaska  Technical                                                              
Vocational Education  Program (TVEP).  She listed the  individuals                                                              
who were listening online and available to answer questions.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:41:16 PM                                                                                                                    
GREG  CASHEN,   Acting  Commissioner,  Department   of  Labor  and                                                              
Workforce  Development  (DOLWD),  Juneau, introduced  himself  and                                                              
Ms.  Harbor  and  thanked  the committee  for  the  invitation  to                                                              
provide an  update on the  Technical Vocational Education  Program                                                              
(TVEP).  The latest  report  was  transmitted to  the  legislature                                                              
this morning and  is available on the Alaska  Workforce Investment                                                              
Board  website.  He  also offered  to  answer  specific  questions                                                              
about training for aviation.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ACTING COMMISSIONER  CASHEN  stated that  TVEP was established  by                                                              
the legislature  in 2000. The purpose  was to enhance  the quality                                                              
and  accessibility of  job training  throughout the  state and  to                                                              
align training  with regional  workforce  demands. The program  is                                                              
funded  by employee  contributions to  the unemployment  insurance                                                              
trust  fund.   TVEP  funds  are   distributed  to   technical  and                                                              
vocational education  entities throughout Alaska as  designated by                                                              
statute.  A statewide network  of training  providers is  critical                                                              
to developing an Alaskan workforce for Alaska's jobs, he said.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
He  explained  that  TVEP  serves  youth  and  adults;  ensures  a                                                              
statewide training  infrastructure;  supports operating  costs for                                                              
centers across the  state, including rural Alaska;  and provides a                                                              
wide range of  vocational training from entry-level  to associates                                                              
degrees. In FY2017,  the ten TVEP recipients were  allocated $13.3                                                              
million  serving 10,168  Alaskans  at a  cost  per participant  of                                                              
$1,307. The program  is effective in increasing  graduation rates,                                                              
employment, earnings, and Alaska hire.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ACTING COMMISSIONER  CASHEN turned  to performance highlights  and                                                              
warned that  the data the department  reports relies on  data that                                                              
employers  submit  for  unemployment   insurance  (UI)  reporting.                                                              
Because the  self-employed are not  covered by UI and  the federal                                                              
government  has a separate  UI program,  employment and  wage data                                                              
is not available for these groups.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
He displayed  a chart that shows  the number of  distinct Alaskans                                                              
served  by TVEP  recipients since  FY2012  and how  many of  those                                                              
individuals were  employed within the year after  completing their                                                              
training.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:44:43 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  STEVENS asked  if the  individuals were  employed in  the                                                              
field of their training.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ACTING  COMMISSIONER  CASHEN  replied this  data  doesn't  reflect                                                              
that level of granularity; it is overall employment data.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GARDNER  summarized  her   understanding  the  exit  data                                                              
reflects the number  of people who participated  and completed the                                                              
program and  the blue line reflects  the people who  were employed                                                              
a  year after  completing  the  program.  The difference  may,  in                                                              
part, be explained  by those who completed a  program that doesn't                                                              
report employed people such as fishermen or federal workers.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ACTING COMMISSIONER CASHEN said that's right.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COSTELLO asked  if TVEP  provides training  for people  who                                                              
may become federal  workers or fishermen, and if  the gap reflects                                                              
people who  didn't find a job  or those the department  isn't able                                                              
to track.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:46:28 PM                                                                                                                    
PALOMA  HARBOUR,   Director,  Administrative   Services  Division,                                                              
Department  of Labor  and Workforce  Development (DOLWD),  Juneau,                                                              
explained that the  gap reflects those individuals  the department                                                              
couldn't  identify  with  the unemployment  insurance  data.  They                                                              
wouldn't show  up for any  number of reasons  such as  working for                                                              
the  federal  government,  in  the   military,  self-employed,  or                                                              
continuing their training.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COSTELLO  asked  if  the   department  tracks  how  long  a                                                              
graduate continues to be employed.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. HARBOUR replied  the data is reported quarterly  so they could                                                              
report on the  number of quarters the graduates  were employed, if                                                              
asked.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ACTING  COMMISSIONER  CASHEN related  that  many  of the  Alaskans                                                              
served  by TVEP  are  just beginning  their  training. Success  in                                                              
these programs gives  participants the skills and  confidence they                                                              
need  to  enter  employment  or  seek  additional  training.  Many                                                              
students  go from  one  training provider  to  another to  advance                                                              
their skills.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
He  displayed  a  chart  showing   the  median  wage  for  a  TVEP                                                              
participant 7-12  months after they  exited the program,  which is                                                              
the statutory  performance measure.  Because it reflects  just six                                                              
months of wages,  they also included the median wage  for the full                                                              
year after  exit. He  noted that  individuals  who work part  time                                                              
bring down the  average. He displayed a graph  showing the average                                                              
income  for a  TVEP recipient  the  year before  they entered  the                                                              
TVEP program compared  to the year after they  exited the program.                                                              
On  average, participants  saw a  13 percent  salary increase.  He                                                              
displayed a slide  showing the total earnings for  all FY2016 TVEP                                                              
participants the  year before entering  the TVEP  program compared                                                              
to the year  after training. He  highlighted that, as a  result of                                                              
the TVEP  program, $22 million  in wages  was added to  the Alaska                                                              
economy.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COSTELLO asked  if fulltime  students receive  a salary  or                                                              
stipend while enrolled in TVEP.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HARBOUR replied  it depends  on  the student.  They could  be                                                              
working  part  time while  attending  training,  but many  of  the                                                              
programs are fulltime during the day.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:50:26 PM                                                                                                                    
ACTING  COMMISSIONER  CASHEN  displayed  slides  showing  the  top                                                              
occupations  in  which TVEP  participants  were employed  and  the                                                              
occupations  with the  highest total  jobs. He  reported that  the                                                              
top  ten occupations  listed  mirror  the employment  outcomes  of                                                              
TVEP participants.  It shows that  TVEP programs  are successfully                                                              
preparing Alaskans for Alaska's jobs.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COSTELLO  pointed out  that  aviation  is not  listed.  She                                                              
asked  if  the  combined  employment  numbers  reflect  the  total                                                              
number of  student who exited the  programs and were  employed for                                                              
FY2017.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ACTING  COMMISSIONER CASHEN  said  that's correct.  He added  that                                                              
aviation is incorporated in the transportation data.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
He said  the committee requested  information last year  about the                                                              
occupations   that   might   be    categorized   as   Office   and                                                              
Administrative  Support Services.  He  explained that  occupations                                                              
include  business and  office  technology,  which are  high-demand                                                              
occupations  that are critical  to businesses.  He noted  that Ms.                                                              
Harbour  worked  as  an administrative  assistant  for  15  months                                                              
before she  was promoted to a  budget position that may  have been                                                              
categorized as  related to  her math degree.  He displayed  a list                                                              
of  the remaining  occupations  in  which TVEP  participants  were                                                              
employed.  An  additional  nine   participants  were  employed  in                                                              
occupations that could not be categorized.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ACTING COMMISSIONER  CASHEN displayed a table that  shows the TVEP                                                              
distribution by recipient  since FY2016. He noted  that the FY2019                                                              
distribution  will be  the second  year of  declining funding  for                                                              
recipients.  TVEP revenue  declines  when  overall employment  and                                                              
wages in Alaska decline.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:53:40 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COSTELLO asked the name of the most recent recipient.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ACTING  COMMISSIONER CASHEN  replied Ilisagvik  College was  added                                                              
in  2014.  That  increased  the   contribution  from  unemployment                                                              
insurance to 0.16 percent.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He displayed  a slide  that detailed by  TVEP recipient  the funds                                                              
distributed  and number  of Alaskans  served in  FY2017. He  noted                                                              
that  some TVEP  recipients serve  youth, some  serve adults,  and                                                              
many serve a mix.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARDNER  observed that TVEP  funding comes from  wages and                                                              
as wages  fall the  funding  falls and  that is a  time when  more                                                              
people might need the services.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ACTING COMMISSIONER CASHEN said that's correct.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
He  displayed  a  slide  of  employment  and  wage  data  by  TVEP                                                              
recipient for FY2016  program participants based  on the statutory                                                              
performance   measures.   It   identifies    the   percentage   of                                                              
participants  that  worked  in   the  fourth  quarter  after  they                                                              
completed training.  He pointed out that given  the seasonality of                                                              
Alaska  jobs,  looking   at  just  three  months   for  employment                                                              
outcomes will  not provide  an adequate  picture. The  median wage                                                              
measure  is equally  flawed because  it represents  six months  of                                                              
wages  instead of a  year and  it focuses  on particular  quarters                                                              
after exit, not the full year.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COSTELLO asked  if the department  tracks  how and  on what                                                              
the TVEP recipients spend their money.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ACTING  COMMISSIONER   CASHEN  replied  the   department  requests                                                              
budgets in the grant agreement for each TVEP recipient.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HARBOUR  confirmed  there  is  a budget  on  the  grants  the                                                              
department  administers, and it  shows some  detail about  how the                                                              
money  is spent.  The department  doesn't have  those details  for                                                              
the Galena Learning  Academy or the university  because it doesn't                                                              
administer  those grants.  However,  the Department  of  Education                                                              
and the university could probably provide it if requested.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO  asked if all the  students pay tuition  or if some                                                              
of the grant is used for student fees.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ACTING  COMMISSIONER  CASHEN  replied  all  the  institutions  are                                                              
tuition-based.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GARDNER  observed  that there  is  a  wide range  in  the                                                              
percent employed  after exit. Amundsen  Educational Center  is the                                                              
highest  at 82  percent  and the  Northwestern  Alaska Career  and                                                              
Technical Center  (NACTC) is  34 percent. She  asked if  they know                                                              
why there's such a difference.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ACTING COMMISSIONER  CASHEN explained that NACTC  trains primarily                                                              
youths under  age 18 so some of  those people may have  gone on to                                                              
additional training.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COSTELLO commented  that it  would be  valuable to  look at                                                              
the  data five  years  out. She  asked if  there  is a  philosophy                                                              
embedded  in  the  program  about  the  best  time  for  training,                                                              
because it  seems that it would  be beneficial if  students exited                                                              
high school with some of these skills.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ACTING  COMMISSIONER  CASHEN  said   the  department  only  tracks                                                              
statutorily  required statistics,  but  the  university may  track                                                              
that  information.  He reiterated  that  some  students  go on  to                                                              
additional training and it may be  in an entirely different area.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COSTELLO mentioned  the process  technology  track at  West                                                              
High and  the training  program  at King Career  Center. She  said                                                              
she's always  thought it would make  sense to offer  ground school                                                              
in high  school because it integrates  a lot of  different content                                                              
matter. She  asked if DOLWD works  closely with the  Department of                                                              
Education and Early Development (DEED).                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ACTING  COMMISSIONER  CASHEN  answered   yes;  the  department  is                                                              
currently  working with  the  Alaska Workforce  Investment  Board,                                                              
the  Department of  Education,  and the  University  of Alaska  to                                                              
update the  Career and Technical  Education Plan that  was created                                                              
in 2010.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COSTELLO   expressed  interest   in  having   a  discussion                                                              
sometime  this session about  the Career  and Technical  Education                                                              
Plan.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ACTING  COMMISSIONER CASHEN  mentioned  training opportunities  at                                                              
the regional training  centers, King Career Center,  Mat-Su Career                                                              
and Tech High  School in Wasilla, and Hutchinson  Career Center in                                                              
Fairbanks.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:04:24 PM                                                                                                                    
ACTING  COMMISSIONER  CASHEN displayed  a  slide  that showed  the                                                              
percentage of employed  within a year after exit  and their median                                                              
wage for  that year.  He said  the Research  and Analysis  Section                                                              
reports  that  in  2016  federal   civilian  employees  in  Alaska                                                              
totaled 15,200  and the  payroll was $1.2  billion. The  number of                                                              
uniformed military  was 21,000.  The department  does not  know if                                                              
any of these individuals received training from TVEP recipients.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GARDNER  asked  if  he  was  talking  about  "other  TVEP                                                              
performance  measures"  and  the  measure he's  talking  about  is                                                              
wages.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. HARBOUR  explained that  the first  slide shows the  statutory                                                              
measures, which  is one year after  exit. The current  slide shows                                                              
employment any  time during the  year following exit. On  the wage                                                              
information,  the  statutory  measure  is  the  median  wage  from                                                              
months 7-12  after exit. The current  slide shows the  median wage                                                              
for the full year after exit.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GARDNER summarized  that  the measure  is  wages and  the                                                              
question is over what period.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HARBOUR   agreed.  She   added  that   given  Alaska's   high                                                              
seasonality, she thought these better reflect outcomes.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS commented  that Delta seems to be  doing very well                                                              
with  an average  wage  of $42,000.  He  asked  what Delta  trains                                                              
students to do.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ACTING  COMMISSIONER  CASHEN  said  construction  and  mining  are                                                              
probably the  primary drivers. The  Delta Mine Training  Center is                                                              
there.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ACTING  COMMISSIONER   CASHEN  returned  to  the   PowerPoint  and                                                              
displayed  a  slide  that  provides  an update  of  the  work  the                                                              
department has done  since last session with the  Alaska Workforce                                                              
Investment  Board  (AWIB) to  review  and potentially  change  the                                                              
TVEP  performance measures  and reporting  requirements. The  AWIB                                                              
executive  director  has  been   working  with  the  head  of  the                                                              
executive   committee  to   identify   improvements  for   program                                                              
accountability.  Department  staff  have  been  meeting  with  the                                                              
committee  monthly  since  early  summer  to  review  the  current                                                              
reporting challenges.  The final recommendations will  be reviewed                                                              
by the full board at its May meeting.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
He thanked the committee for the opportunity to present.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   STEVENS  requested   follow-up   information  on   pilot                                                              
training.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ACTING  COMMISSIONER  CASHEN  shared   that  the  Galena  Interior                                                              
Learning  Academy provides  private pilot  ground school,  flying,                                                              
and   Arctic  survival.   The  Northwestern   Alaska  Career   and                                                              
Technical  Center (NACTEC)  in Nome  provides aviation,  airframe,                                                              
and power  plant mechanic training.  He added that  the department                                                              
has  started working  with  some of  the  airlines that  presented                                                              
earlier on  an apprenticeship  program for  commercial pilots  and                                                              
A&P  mechanics. He  offered  to  follow up  with  a more  specific                                                              
conversation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:11:44 PM                                                                                                                    
There  being no  further business  to come  before the  committee,                                                              
Chair Costello  adjourned the Senate  Labor and Commerce  Standing                                                              
Committee meeting at 3:11 p.m.                                                                                                  

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